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Gemini 4 Carbon is now available

What HN thinks

A frontier model has launched, and most of the thread is still refreshing its subscription page to find it.

Confusing tiers block access
Many paying Plus and Pro users can't see Carbon, and they find Google's overlapping plans, regional differences and staggered rollouts baffling and frustrating.
Quotas too small to matter
Even users who have Argon or Carbon say the usage limits are so tight that a few tasks burn through the weekly allowance.
The model itself is good
Those who tried Carbon or Argon report strong results on research, writing and complex builds, and some think the negativity is aimed at Google's rollout rather than the model.

Consensus: Most agree Google's rollout and plan structure are a mess and that Carbon is effectively Ultra- or API-only for now, whatever its quality.

Recommended in the comments

DeepSeek (service): Recommended as good enough and much cheaper for cost-sensitive or less ambitious tasks.
OpenRouter (service): Gives pay-as-you-go access to Google's models without a subscription.
Switcheroo ↗ (tool): Its author shared it as a way to spread usage across multiple accounts.
Claude Code (tool): One commenter called it a stronger harness than Google's offerings.

Summarised by Claude from the comment thread 3 days ago.

Points: 198
Comments: 117
Best rank: #4
Posted: 2026-11-10 by meetpateltech
Category: AI & ML

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