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Mistral Large 4

What HN thinks

A two-week-old model gets a second lap of honour, mostly so Europe can argue about whether it's a champion or a protected cheese.

Worse and pricier than DeepSeek
Benchmarks and OpenRouter pricing suggest Mistral Large 4 is weaker than DeepSeek 4.1 at roughly ten times the cost, so many see little reason to use it on merit.
Value is European sovereignty
Supporters say GDPR coverage, EU data residency and distrust of US and Chinese providers make it worthwhile, and they are glad Mistral is still competing. Others call this patriotism, or argue over whether it amounts to a government-backed monopoly.
Stray Chinese characters are common
A user saw Chinese characters appear in its German output. Others said most models do this occasionally, and it does not prove distillation.

Consensus: Most agree it is not competitive on price and performance alone, and that its main appeal is EU hosting and data protection. Several also note the story is a repost and the weights are not out yet.

Recommended in the comments

DeepSeek V4.1 (product): Cited as cheaper and as strong or stronger than Mistral Large 4.
GLM 5.3 ↗ (product): Mistral hosts it in Europe, and commenters say it works well there.
Privatemode ↗ (service): Offers GLM models with enclave-based processing in Europe.
Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (product): Commenters say it is surprisingly competitive when run at home.

Summarised by Claude from the comment thread 3 days ago.

Points: 307
Comments: 104
Best rank: #1
Posted: 2026-10-21 by funnym0nk3y
Category: Ai ml

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